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Alt text categorization even when no cover?[editar código]
The template currently places articles in Category:Album articles lacking alt text for covers even if there's no cover image used by the template. Is that what we want? If so, perhaps the category should be moved to Category:Album articles lacking alt text. Jason Quinn (talk) 03:23, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Jason Quinn, It should be fixed but I haven't gotten around to it. :/ ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:27, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Music Genre[editar código]
Can we use source's subcategory for genre? Entertainment Weekly does this a lot, they are not directly explained in the article. They usual have a sort of "infobox" with the label, release date and genre(s) of the album. Is it okay for us to use that to classify the genre of an album or does it need to be directly explained in the article? I believe I have seen this policy somewhere but I can't seem to find it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 01:09, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
- I know for Allmusic its advised against. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 01:49, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
RfC concerning songs on multiple albums[editar código]
On the article for Post Human: Survival Horror, there is a dispute concerning whether or not Ludens should be listed as a single on the album using Template:Singles, because it was originally released for the Death Stranding soundtrack, and later added to Post Human. My questions are: what defines "a single being used for the marketing and promotion for multiple albums" if the second album it is released on is not a compilation album, and, what defines "a single being used for the marketing and promotion of an album" in general? JJP...MASTER!...MASTER!!! master of puppets, i'm pulling your strings (0-3-5)[talk about or to] JJP... master? master? where's the dreams that i've been after (0-3-6-5) 15:03, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Rather than restating anything I've already said, I'll link the discussion this RfC is branching from: link here. I think the biggest issue comes from consistency between this template and Template:Infobox song, and from the unclear phrasing presented by @JJPMaster:. Despite our differing reads on this information, I totally agree that clarity in phrasing is important to prevent future misunderstandings like this one, or this discussion I also referenced relating to Katy Perry's newest album. Sock (
tocktalk) 23:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC)- Template:Infobox_album#Template:Singles clearly says La página Plantilla:Talk quote inline/styles.css debe tener el modelo de contenido "CSS expurgado" para TemplateStyles (el modelo de contenido que tiene actualmente es "texto wiki").
Do not include singles that were added as bonus tracks on a re-release of an album. For songs that appear on more than one album, list the song as a single only for the album(s) where the single was released as part of the marketing and promotion of that album
. Therefore there are a couple of things that can be looked at: if the record label that originally released the song is different to the record label releasing the album, its not a single from that album. If the single was released before the album was announced and wasn't subsequently referred to as a single from said album but rather simply tacked on the end then again, not a single from the album. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 10:40, 19 November 2020 (UTC)- @JJPMaster: "a single being used for the marketing and promotion of an album" should come from a reliable source, such as in a press release or review. Without it, it's just another single, which the parameter guidance entry is trying to discourage from being added to album infoboxes. @Sock: I don't see a conflict with Template:Infobox song#album, since that parameter doesn't depend on whether the single "was released as part of the marketing and promotion of that album". —Ojorojo (talk) 16:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Ojorojo: I didn't mean to imply a conflict, just that the wordings differ. I personally agree with @Lil-unique1: that the wording reads that way and that, in our specific instance, "Ludens" was referred to as a single from Timefall but not from Post Human, so it should only be considered a single for the former. The record label difference is also a great point I hadn't considered, which also stands to "Ludens"' status as simply a song on Post Human rather than a single. Sock (
tocktalk) 00:16, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Ojorojo: I didn't mean to imply a conflict, just that the wordings differ. I personally agree with @Lil-unique1: that the wording reads that way and that, in our specific instance, "Ludens" was referred to as a single from Timefall but not from Post Human, so it should only be considered a single for the former. The record label difference is also a great point I hadn't considered, which also stands to "Ludens"' status as simply a song on Post Human rather than a single. Sock (
- @JJPMaster: "a single being used for the marketing and promotion of an album" should come from a reliable source, such as in a press release or review. Without it, it's just another single, which the parameter guidance entry is trying to discourage from being added to album infoboxes. @Sock: I don't see a conflict with Template:Infobox song#album, since that parameter doesn't depend on whether the single "was released as part of the marketing and promotion of that album". —Ojorojo (talk) 16:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Infobox_album#Template:Singles clearly says La página Plantilla:Talk quote inline/styles.css debe tener el modelo de contenido "CSS expurgado" para TemplateStyles (el modelo de contenido que tiene actualmente es "texto wiki").
Singles from re-releases[editar código]
I would like to discuss the second rule of the singles: "Do not include singles that were added as bonus tracks on a re-release of an album." I understand why this rule was put in place as many albums at the moment simply add on additional tracks upon their release to increase streams and sales, but I think it should be different for singles that actually promote an album and are released after. For example, Fever (Dua Lipa and Angèle song). Like many singles I was mentioning before, it was originally added as a bonus track on Lipa's Future Nostalgia, but it was released to promote the French edition of the album which was released on both CD and LP physical formats. It also appeared in commercials for the reissue and sources including Billboard have called it a single from the album's era. Finally, Lipa described the song as an introduction to the albums 2021 reissue, but another song (titled "We're Good") was referred to as its lead single. I think this is enough for it to appear as a single in the infobox but I just wanted to check here first. LOVI33 01:47, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- What are you calling a re-release? The example you gave is a bonus track to a release, all of which came out within a year of the original date. I believe the "re-release" term signifies an album that was released in one format and much later was re-released on a different format with additional tracks. For instance, an album that was released in the early 80s on vinyl and then later re-issued on CD with three bonus tracks. You might want to discuss at the albums project. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Duration template[editar código]
For length=
, Was {{duration}}
deprecated some years ago, or is its use still encouraged? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC)